tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post112070928594070875..comments2023-09-03T10:27:50.770-05:00Comments on Personal Musings of Priestly Goth: Emergent and Orthodoxy (Revisited0Community of the Holy Trinityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15327079170088324442noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post-1121108530404809272005-07-11T14:02:00.000-05:002005-07-11T14:02:00.000-05:00"Anonymous"Paroused your article and will coment a..."Anonymous"<BR/>Paroused your article and will coment again when I have taken it in more fully.<BR/>However, My initial reaction is that we are perhaps not that far apart. In fact what I see in the Emergent folk here in Chicago is precisely a sense of emergence as something emerging out of the deficient into that which is fuller and more complex. At least that is what I hear as the desire of the Emergent Cohort Up/rooted. Thus, what I am hearing from those who self identify is not the sense of the emergence of the new. My comments have been to say that while I understand some (many) in the emergent movement are as I have seen them characterized there is also another side to the Emergent Church movement, something more orthodox and catholic. They are more using the opportunity of what is labled post-modern to emerge from that which is difficient to a more complex reality. Namely to find the fulness of the faith in the tradition of the Church. <BR/>This is where I find a certain affinity with the emergent movement though like I said in the previous comment I wish to stand outside it while encouragin what I see as its more positive elements.Community of the Holy Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327079170088324442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post-1121107750833851792005-07-11T13:49:00.000-05:002005-07-11T13:49:00.000-05:00I was similarly reticent when I first began to hea...I was similarly reticent when I first began to hear about the Emergent Church movement, until I enountered this group identifying itself as emergent. <BR/>My own sense after hanging around with emergent folk here in Chicago and looking at various church web sites who are supposedly a part of the emergent movement is that both the Up/rooted folk here in Chicago and the emergent you describe are both a part of what is being called the Emergent Church. I think it comes down to that the Emergent church is attempting to take what is being called Postmodern and respond/react and take seriously the various cultural philsophical and theological changes labled as post-modern. However the Emergent Movement has yet to dictate what that responce/reaction is or should be. So, you have some emergent who because of postmodernism have rediscovered that the church has a tradition that the history of the church is important for knowing what Christianity is. there are also those who are simply replaying the old primitivist card (at best) and simply replaying every Protestant failed attempt to return to some prestine Chrsitian fiath. Though this time playing very heavily with the value of relavance.<BR/>My point though is that given the various ways tradition and liturgy are being approached by people in the Emergent Movement means that there are some positive things occuring in the movement, even if it may be that what we have is just another Protestant movement that will run its course and produce yet anothe group of Christians disconected from the history and tradition of the church.<BR/>In any case my hope is that the movement is more like what I see here in Chicago than what you discribe. This is only a hope, But I will do my best to encourage this strain of the emergent even if I will wish to stand outside it. Because I know of the presence of the elements you describe.Community of the Holy Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327079170088324442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post-1120965072525679422005-07-09T22:11:00.000-05:002005-07-09T22:11:00.000-05:00Hola Larry. "Anonymous" here again.Please read thi...Hola Larry. "Anonymous" here again.<BR/><BR/>Please read this, if'n you want to understand where I'm coming from -- or rather, where I came from and where I'm going:<BR/><BR/>http://www.theooze.com/articles/article.cfm?id=1154Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com