tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post5437012012010813899..comments2023-09-03T10:27:50.770-05:00Comments on Personal Musings of Priestly Goth: Reflecting on Protestantism and the Relevance of Christianity with Martin E. MartyCommunity of the Holy Trinityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15327079170088324442noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post-12058856052888730692008-05-06T13:27:00.000-05:002008-05-06T13:27:00.000-05:00Ok, I was just wondering how useful Mary's amnalys...Ok, I was just wondering how useful Mary's amnalysis might be for those outside the USA. US Protestantism does influence Christianity in other places, but it also mutates away from the US. <BR/><BR/>Here the charismatic renewal of the 60s and 70s seemed to take a wrong turmn i9n the aties, and splite into mutually competing doctrinal rigidities, some, but not all, influenced by events and people in the USA.Steve Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11283123400540587033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post-46509369452735031072008-05-06T13:12:00.000-05:002008-05-06T13:12:00.000-05:00Steve,While Marty does not always confine his anal...Steve,<BR/>While Marty does not always confine his analysis to the USA, it is his focus. Often his analysis is concerning Protestantism in the USA.<BR/>In The Modern Schism though looks at continental Europe (France and Germany mostly), Great Britain, and the United States. The time period of the study does not include the 1960's.<BR/>In the Protestant Voice of American Pluralism he does take his study up to the present time. However, he more articulates a theory of the rise of the Religious Right as opposed the the decline of the Religious Left. His view of this seems to be that as pluralism and secularization make head way the fundamentalists and evangelicals resort to nostalgia and resentment. Other than that these two can produce a fairly compelling rhetoric he does not explain why nostalgia or resentment would be appealing to large groups of people in the US.<BR/>However, I think your question may remain unasked by Marty, primarily because from my reading it seems he simply would see the decline of the Religious left as part of the decline of organized religion and the expansion of secularization and pluralism. For Marty decline of the Religious Left is simply part of the overall decline of organized religion. The rise of fundamentalism is puzzling, but I am not aware that he has accounted for it. In part I think because he assumes it to be anomaly that will eventually fit into the general decline of organized religion in pluralist and secularist contexts. An explanation of this view is the pattern of periods of religious revival in the United States that are unsustainable, which halts the sort of decline found in Europe but still falls into the pattern of general decline in the West.<BR/>Marty has edited various books on Fundamentalism, but I don't think he himself has produced a history of it. He has also dealt with the social Gospel protestants and "Mainline" churches but as he often points out these are not necessarily "leftist" positions.Community of the Holy Trinityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327079170088324442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8605839.post-50824675185566549372008-05-06T01:07:00.000-05:002008-05-06T01:07:00.000-05:00Does Marty confine his analysis to the USA?I'm int...Does Marty confine his analysis to the USA?<BR/><BR/>I'm interested in the rise of the religious right, and the decline in the religious left since the 1960s. How does Marty explain this?Steve Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11283123400540587033noreply@blogger.com